There were several years with rival organisations, which was not without an impact on the community. Some deaf people had strong political loyalties, others just wanted to be with their friends. In this video clip, Bob Herman recalls the situation: “I went to the Society. There was another place called the Deaf Association. There were two clubs. I went to one to have a look where my friends went. Then I would go to the other one. My friends called me ‘two-faced’. They would whisper, ‘Bob Herman, there’s Bob Herman. He goes to the other club too.’ I never worried about that, I only wanted to see my friends, my mates, so I would go to both of them.”